Brickwiki:Technical Issues/Archive 1

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Domain Names

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I also thought of paying for the domain names (I think brackwiki.org and brackwiki.com should be grabbed before they get squatted) via some cheap provider, but it's better if V is the recorder. I'll pay for that too if you go off and do it ASAP. ++Lar


About the domain name; do you think brackwiki has grown to the point of needing one? --Venkatesh 11:50:43, 2005-09-23 (Eastern Daylight Time)
Mos def. Heck, I set up a domain each for my kids and they have like 2 pages each. ++Lar 12:24, September 23, 2005 (Eastern Daylight Time)
Definitely. And it has also grown to the point of squatters thinking it might need one. Tim 12:26, 23 September 2005 (Eastern Daylight Time)
Thanks for all your support, guys. And a few things about a domain name. First of all, brackwiki.com, brackwiki.org, brackwiki.net, and most else are free. Anyone have any preferences? I was leaning towards brackwiki.org or brackwiki.net. A case could even be made for brackwiki.edu (it is a place to learn, afterall). --Venkatesh 12:55:04, 2005-09-23 (Eastern Daylight Time)
I would be quite mistrustful of brackwiki.edu (that is for schools and universities in my books) but .org and .net seem best. I don't like .com really as it is not commercial. Wikipedia is .org so maybe we should stick with that. Tim 13:05, 23 September 2005 (Eastern Daylight Time)
Com is not needed for its own name but more as a way to prevent it from being squatted. I say get com/net/org... all three pointing to the same place, whatever that is. Leave edu because we're not a uni, and because it's a lot harder to squat anyway. That's all IMHO of course. ++Lar 14:11, September 23, 2005 (Eastern Daylight Time) PS we may want to take this off wiki... talking about domain names not yet registered in public makes me nervous, there are bots out there. PPS, wikipedia.com redirects to wikipedia.org
Anybody used any good registrars or have any recommendations about ones? --Venkatesh 13:12:19, 2005-09-27 (Eastern Daylight Time)
Heard good things about Joker. GoDaddy is the cheapest but there are some rumors about them not being good at renewals, and letting squatters get them. I am not sure what Eric Smith uses (he, via Northstar, manages all my domains). Hope that helps. ++Lar 13:59, September 27, 2005 (Eastern Daylight Time)


Alternate hosting options

Owing to the recent preformance issues we have investigated some alternative hosting options for BrickWiki. Outlined below are a selection of pros and cons for various potential solutions to the speed and other issues with the current setup for BrickWiki.

Peeron

Pros
Linux based (less worries about case)
Linked directly to other Peeron databases
Lego extensions
Cons
Costs unknown
No cross-wiki accounts

Wikicities

Pros
Free
Wikispecialist
Linux based (less worries about case)
Cross-wiki accounts (easier for editing)
Cons
No Lego extensions (seems to be their extensions only)
Google Ads
Cross-wiki accounts (easier for vandalism)

Northstar

Pros
Free (see cons)
Legospecialist
More administrative control
Lego extensions
Cons
Weird link names
Costs money after 100MB
No cross-wiki accounts
Northstar Ad (more discrete than google ads)
Self management can eat time
Windows based

Hardware

We are currently working on optimizing the configuration of our servers. Should these machines prove incapable of sustaining load levels, I would like to know if anyone has any spare computer hardware they would be willing to donate.

There are many ongoing projects here that will tax the current hardware. Frankly, I am surprised that the current hardware is able to keep up at all with this load; the AMD K6-2 and the ALi M1541 chipset have impressed tremendously. However there are loads with which they cannot deal.

Recently, I had priced out a new, powerful Athlon 64-based server. Because of all the spare equiptment we have, such a machine would prove to be remarkably affordable, under $200 USD. The idea of more than quadrupling processing power so cheaply impressed me. However the snag Astro73 and I hit was how we would fundraise the $200. Brickwiki doesn't have a foundation or project group to which donations or grants can go and setting one up would be a fair amount of effort for me.

So we began to examine what alternatives we had. If you look at the Servers Page, you will see we have two machines out of commission, both lacking specific parts. For $46.50, we could buy 3 128MB PC100 SDRAM DIMMs, allowing us to put Eclipse back in service and roughly doubling our hardware capacity. While easy, this did not seem like the best idea in terms of efficiency - for $46, we would be getting 384MB of an obsolete memory in 3 DIMMs. For $44, we could have had 1 512MB PC3200 DDR SDRAM DIMM, which would stomp on the SDR repeatedly in terms of performance per dollar.

The last option is the easiest; the server formerly known as Dellme is out of service because we don't have a power supply for it. We have a spare ATX power supply and two spare AT supplies, but Dellme's mainboard uses a proprietary power connector. Just last night, I discovered that adapters between ATX and Dellme's connector cost just $19.99, which would allow us to bring that machine back into service and end our performance woes for quite some time. This is what I will be doing as soon as I can, likely by the end of this month or early next.

I'm good for 50 bucks via paypal if I know specifically what it is being spent on, the above seems a lot of if this and maybe that... I also thought of paying for the domain names (I think brickwiki.org and brickwiki.com should be grabbed before they get squatted) via some cheap provider, but it's better if V is the recorder. I'll pay for that too if you go off and do it ASAP. ++Lar
After thinking about it and because of the last paragraph, the $50 would help us less than the $20. If we spend $50, we gain a P3 500MHz, 384MB PC100 SDRAM. If we spend $20, we gain a P3 933MHz, 512MB PC133 SDRAM. Which would you take? =) And I can spend the $20, thats no real problem at all.
So spend it then. But I'm still good for 50 (after that, i think talking to other hosting opps as we discussed is worth looking into)... wasn't saying I'd give 50 to a particular option or advocating for it, you know your hardware better than we do... just that you could tap me for 50, perhaps 20 now on that option and 20 later and 10 later still, whatever made sense. ++Lar 12:24, September 23, 2005 (Eastern Daylight Time)
There are others who would offer money too if they thought it would get BW up and running faster. I can count myself plus two others already. Tim 12:26, 23 September 2005 (Eastern Daylight Time)
Like to add a metoo hereTalltim 04:49, September 28, 2005 (Eastern Daylight Time)


Testing the DNS infrastructure

I just set up BIND 9 on Unitednations, in preparation for buying the dns names brickwiki.org, brickwiki.com, and brickwiki.net. I need people to test it. If you could connect to dns01.zapto.org with nslookup and lookup the domain brickwiki.org, and get 69.141.244.230, please post an affirmative here. Otherwise, post a negative. --Venkatesh 17:23:35, 2005-10-06 (Eastern Daylight Time)

Worked for me Tim 17:32, 6 October 2005 (Eastern Daylight Time)
Affirmative (from Chicago via hotel network) ++Lar 21:45, October 6, 2005 (Eastern Daylight Time)
OK here ROSCO 22:00:52, 2005-10-06 (Eastern Daylight Time)

--- Good news - it seems that brickwiki.org is live. If you can access it, please tell me. --Venkatesh 15:23:47, 2005-10-07 (Eastern Daylight Time)

Quick correction; it seems that www2.brickwiki.org is the only one live. Try that and tell me please? Thanks. --Venkatesh 15:26:19, 2005-10-07 (Eastern Daylight Time)
Right now, I'm unsure what part of the DNS system has gone live and what hasn't it seems to be varying from place-to-place. Can you all try www.brickwiki.org, www2.brickwiki.org, and brickwiki.org and report on its statuses? And also which one of the three seems the fastest? Thanks. --Venkatesh 15:39:52, 2005-10-07 (Eastern Daylight Time)
www.brickwiki.org justed worked for me from the UK Tim 17:34, 7 October 2005 (Eastern Daylight Time)
Forgot to add it before. www2 worked for me too Tim 19:09, 7 October 2005 (Eastern Daylight Time)
www and www2 both working for me in Aus ROSCO 19:01:18, 2005-10-07 (Eastern Daylight Time)
I just got home from Chicago, so am connected via Comcast cable infrastructure. www.brickwiki.org: fail www2.brickwiki.org: succeed (perceived slow, tracert failed to show intermediate hops, they all timed out, ping times also timed out) brickwiki.org: succeed (also perceived slow, ditto, ditto). Hope that helps. ++Lar 01:59, October 8, 2005 (Eastern Daylight Time)
Do they feel slower than connecting via brickwiki.zapto.org? --Venkatesh 11:50:12, 2005-10-08 (Eastern Daylight Time)
They feel similar speeds to me. I tried tracert too, and got weird results. All 3 names appear to take the same route for me. All jumps after #23 timed out. Hops 20-23 were all in the 68.86.x.x block, which appear to be comcast addresses. I set the hop limit to 200 and still didn't get to the final address. Not sure why tracert appears to get confused. ROSCO 17:39:36, 2005-10-09 (Eastern Daylight Time)

Problem

If I sign in to www.brickwiki.org/Special:Recentchanges I am not logged in whereas if I sign in to brickwiki.zapto.org/Special:Recentchanges I am logged in. Tim 12:36, 8 October 2005 (Eastern Daylight Time)

You just need to log in once at the new URL; cookies don't carry across URLs. --Venkatesh 13:40:20, 2005-10-08 (Eastern Daylight Time)
is the old name going to live indefinitely? just wondering. ++Lar 16:10, October 8, 2005 (Eastern Daylight Time)
Its going to be live indefinately. Unless you don't want it to be. --Venkatesh 18:02:41, 2005-10-08 (Eastern Daylight Time)
It ought to be up to more than just me! but I tend to favour URLs living forever if practical, you never know what old links or printed material points to them. So, no reason for it to go away, and some good ones to keep it around ++Lar 23:28, October 8, 2005 (Eastern Daylight Time)
I meant it lightly - there was no reason for me to take that URL down, so as long as No-ip's service is free, that URL will be around. In fact, adding new aliases to brickwiki.org is just as simple as adding a symlink to /var/htdocs/legowiki/brickwiki.zapto.org to whatever the new name is. --128.220.39.23 10:57, October 9, 2005 (Eastern Daylight Time)

Outstanding Technical Issues

  • Some users unable to upload images - if you have an image that you want uploaded, please email it to me and I will put it up. -Fixed 08/06/05
  • Anonymous edits are all credited to 192.168.0.1 due to NIC Balancing software-Fixed in move to United Nations
  • Web Interface unable to delete images - Fixed in move to United Nations
  • Thumbnails not forming correctly - Fixed by installing Imagemagick
  • Nostalgia skin not working -Fixed with Mediawiki upgrade
  • Watchlist causes SQL error -Fixed with Mediawiki upgrade
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